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by: HenHanna - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 07:37 UTC

For 2 weeks or so... i've been noticing that

(in Sci.Lang, AUE (alt.usage.english), Rec.Puzzles, etc.)

new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.

--------- What (in the...) is going on ???

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by: bad sector - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 10:32 UTC

On 4/30/24 03:37, HenHanna wrote:
>
> For 2 weeks or so... i've been noticing that
>
> (in Sci.Lang, AUE (alt.usage.english), Rec.Puzzles, etc.)
>
> new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.
>
>
> --------- What (in the...) is going on ???

What (in the...) is NovaBBS?

T-bird does have issues, more than one even, but articles that my
providing usenet server puts up do appear in T-bird on my computers.

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From: gmkeros@gmail.com (Kyonshi)
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by: Kyonshi - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 11:37 UTC

On 4/30/2024 12:32 PM, bad sector wrote:
> On 4/30/24 03:37, HenHanna wrote:
>>
>> For 2 weeks or so... i've been noticing that
>>
>> (in Sci.Lang, AUE (alt.usage.english), Rec.Puzzles, etc.)
>>
>> new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.
>>
>>
>> --------- What (in the...) is going on ???
>
>
> What (in the...) is NovaBBS?
>
> T-bird does have issues, more than one even, but articles that my
> providing usenet server puts up do appear in T-bird on my computers.
>

It's a web interface for usenet running on Rocksolid Light.

NovaBBS is connected with I2PN2, HenHanna, how are you getting the posts
into TB? Did you connect it with the nntp server for I2PN2?

If that's the case you might have to ask the sysop of both systems
(Retro Guy), it might be something wrong with his configuration.

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by: Retro Guy - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 12:09 UTC

Kyonshi wrote:

> On 4/30/2024 12:32 PM, bad sector wrote:
>> On 4/30/24 03:37, HenHanna wrote:
>>>
>>> For 2 weeks or so... i've been noticing that
>>>
>>> (in Sci.Lang, AUE (alt.usage.english), Rec.Puzzles, etc.)
>>>
>>> new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.
>>>
>>>
>>> --------- What (in the...) is going on ???
>>
>>
>> What (in the...) is NovaBBS?
>>
>> T-bird does have issues, more than one even, but articles that my
>> providing usenet server puts up do appear in T-bird on my computers.
>>

> It's a web interface for usenet running on Rocksolid Light.

> NovaBBS is connected with I2PN2, HenHanna, how are you getting the posts Kyonshi wrote:

> It's a web interface for usenet running on Rocksolid Light.

> NovaBBS is connected with I2PN2, HenHanna, how are you getting the posts
> into TB? Did you connect it with the nntp server for I2PN2?

> If that's the case you might have to ask the sysop of both systems
> (Retro Guy), it might be something wrong with his configuration.

It should not happen that articles would be available in the web interface that are not available from the nntp server (news.i2pn2.org) as the web interfaces sources the articles from the nntp server. Maybe the other way around could happen, but that's not the case.

I'm guessing HenHanna is using a different news server than i2pn2 with his Thunderbird config.

Nobody can really help unless he provides some message-ids.
> into TB? Did you connect it with the nntp server for I2PN2?

> If that's the case you might have to ask the sysop of both systems
> (Retro Guy), it might be something wrong with his configuration.

I'm guessing HenHanna is using a different news server than i2pn2 with his Thunderbird config.

Nobody can really help unless he provides some message-ids.

--
Retro Guy

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by: Retro Guy - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 12:18 UTC

> Nobody can really help unless he provides some message-ids.

Also, I seem to have been paste crazy on the last post.

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by: Sn!pe - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 12:53 UTC

Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:

> Kyonshi wrote:
>
> > On 4/30/2024 12:32 PM, bad sector wrote:
> >> On 4/30/24 03:37, HenHanna wrote:
> >>>
> >>> For 2 weeks or so... i've been noticing that
> >>>
> >>> (in Sci.Lang, AUE (alt.usage.english), Rec.Puzzles, etc.)
> >>>
> >>> new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --------- What (in the...) is going on ???
> >>
> >>
> >> What (in the...) is NovaBBS?
> >>
> >> T-bird does have issues, more than one even, but articles that my
> >> providing usenet server puts up do appear in T-bird on my computers.
> >>
>
> > It's a web interface for usenet running on Rocksolid Light.
> >
> > NovaBBS is connected with I2PN2, HenHanna, how are you getting the posts
> >Kyonshi wrote:
>
> > On 4/30/2024 12:32 PM, bad sector wrote:
> >> On 4/30/24 03:37, HenHanna wrote:
> >>>
> >>> For 2 weeks or so... i've been noticing that
> >>>
> >>> (in Sci.Lang, AUE (alt.usage.english), Rec.Puzzles, etc.)
> >>>
> >>> new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --------- What (in the...) is going on ???
> >>
> >>
> >> What (in the...) is NovaBBS?
> >>
> >> T-bird does have issues, more than one even, but articles that my
> >> providing usenet server puts up do appear in T-bird on my computers.
> >>
>
> > It's a web interface for usenet running on Rocksolid Light.
>
> > NovaBBS is connected with I2PN2, HenHanna, how are you getting the posts
> > into TB? Did you connect it with the nntp server for I2PN2?
>
> > If that's the case you might have to ask the sysop of both systems
> > (Retro Guy), it might be something wrong with his configuration.
> >
>
> It should not happen that articles would be available in the web interface
>that are not available from the nntp server (news.i2pn2.org) as the web
>interfaces sources the articles from the nntp server. Maybe the other
>way around could happen, but that's not the case.
>
> I'm guessing HenHanna is using a different news server than i2pn2 with his
>Thunderbird config.
>
> Nobody can really help unless he provides some message-ids.
>

According to HenHanna's headers they are posting and presumably
reading via Eternal-September. The missing articles may have been
cancelled at E-S; does i2pn2 use the same NoCeM config as E-S?

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

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by: Retro Guy - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 13:11 UTC

Sn!pe wrote:

> Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:

>> >Kyonshi wrote:
>>
>> > On 4/30/2024 12:32 PM, bad sector wrote:
>> >> On 4/30/24 03:37, HenHanna wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> For 2 weeks or so... i've been noticing that
>> >>>
>> >>> (in Sci.Lang, AUE (alt.usage.english), Rec.Puzzles, etc.)
>> >>>
>> >>> new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --------- What (in the...) is going on ???
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What (in the...) is NovaBBS?
>> >>
>> >> T-bird does have issues, more than one even, but articles that my
>> >> providing usenet server puts up do appear in T-bird on my computers.
>> >>
>>
>> > It's a web interface for usenet running on Rocksolid Light.
>>
>> > NovaBBS is connected with I2PN2, HenHanna, how are you getting the posts
>> > into TB? Did you connect it with the nntp server for I2PN2?
>>
>> > If that's the case you might have to ask the sysop of both systems
>> > (Retro Guy), it might be something wrong with his configuration.
>> >
>>
>> It should not happen that articles would be available in the web interface
>>that are not available from the nntp server (news.i2pn2.org) as the web
>>interfaces sources the articles from the nntp server. Maybe the other
>>way around could happen, but that's not the case.
>>
>> I'm guessing HenHanna is using a different news server than i2pn2 with his
>>Thunderbird config.
>>
>> Nobody can really help unless he provides some message-ids.
>>

> According to HenHanna's headers they are posting and presumably
> reading via Eternal-September. The missing articles may have been
> cancelled at E-S; does i2pn2 use the same NoCeM config as E-S?

I apply e-s 'spam' NoCeM and dorfdsl NoCeM, but no others besides my own (i2pn2 NoCeM). I don't know which ones Ray applies.

I do run a more strict spamassassin on my reader server (news.i2pn2.org) that does not send NoCeM as it's meant to just maintain my own server the way I wish, but not impose my views on other servers (mostly crossposting abuse). This would not cause the issue HenHanna mentions as it would be reversed (not on novabbs, but in T-Bird).

Unless he lists some message-ids, no one can provide an accurate assessment of his issue.

--
Retro Guy

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by: Ottavio Caruso - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 13:39 UTC

Am 30/04/2024 um 11:32 schrieb bad sector:
> hat (in the...) is NovaBBS?

It's the new GG.

--
Ottavio Caruso

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Subject: Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.
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by: Kyonshi - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:06 UTC

On 4/30/2024 3:11 PM, Retro Guy wrote:

>
>> According to HenHanna's headers they are posting and presumably
>> reading via Eternal-September. The missing articles may have been
>> cancelled at E-S; does i2pn2 use the same NoCeM config as E-S?
>
> I apply e-s 'spam' NoCeM and dorfdsl NoCeM, but no others besides my own
> (i2pn2 NoCeM). I don't know which ones Ray applies.
>
> I do run a more strict spamassassin on my reader server (news.i2pn2.org)
> that does not send NoCeM as it's meant to just maintain my own server
> the way I wish, but not impose my views on other servers (mostly
> crossposting abuse). This would not cause the issue HenHanna mentions as
> it would be reversed (not on novabbs, but in T-Bird).
>
> Unless he lists some message-ids, no one can provide an accurate
> assessment of his issue.
>

early guess: It's to do with crossposting. Maybe Ray and you set the
crosspost limits at different levels and HenHanna is brushing against that.

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by: Retro Guy - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:49 UTC

On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 19:06:48 +0200, Kyonshi wrote:

> On 4/30/2024 3:11 PM, Retro Guy wrote:
>
>>
>>> According to HenHanna's headers they are posting and presumably
>>> reading via Eternal-September. The missing articles may have been
>>> cancelled at E-S; does i2pn2 use the same NoCeM config as E-S?
>>
>> I apply e-s 'spam' NoCeM and dorfdsl NoCeM, but no others besides my own
>> (i2pn2 NoCeM). I don't know which ones Ray applies.
>>
>> I do run a more strict spamassassin on my reader server (news.i2pn2.org)
>> that does not send NoCeM as it's meant to just maintain my own server
>> the way I wish, but not impose my views on other servers (mostly
>> crossposting abuse). This would not cause the issue HenHanna mentions as
>> it would be reversed (not on novabbs, but in T-Bird).
>>
>> Unless he lists some message-ids, no one can provide an accurate
>> assessment of his issue.
>>
>
> early guess: It's to do with crossposting. Maybe Ray and you set the
> crosspost limits at different levels and HenHanna is brushing against that.

That's possible, and makes sense. Mine isn't set very high.

Another thing I can think of is that i2pn2 filters binaries only by message
size, not specifically whether it contains binary data. Small attachments
are allowed. Maybe Ray's binary filter is removing articles with small
attachments. It is a binary filter so that would make sense, and would mean
the filter is working properly :)

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by: Jörg Lorenz - Wed, 1 May 2024 05:32 UTC

On 30.04.24 15:39, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Am 30/04/2024 um 11:32 schrieb bad sector:
>> hat (in the...) is NovaBBS?
>
> It's the new GG.

My filter is

if Injection-Info contains i2pn2.org
then ignore subthread

--
"Alea iacta est." (Julius Caesar)

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by: Jörg Lorenz - Wed, 1 May 2024 05:36 UTC

On 01.05.24 07:32, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 30.04.24 15:39, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Am 30/04/2024 um 11:32 schrieb bad sector:
>>> hat (in the...) is NovaBBS?
>>
>> It's the new GG.
>
> My filter is
>
> if Injection-Info contains i2pn2.org
> then ignore subthread

I forgot to mention that I also use a Whitelist of regulars using this
server. It basically contains 1 user which is the owner of the service.
He is a nice guy. :-)

--
"Alea iacta est." (Julius Caesar)

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by: Ottavio Caruso - Wed, 1 May 2024 08:17 UTC

Am 01/05/2024 um 06:32 schrieb Jörg Lorenz:
> On 30.04.24 15:39, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Am 30/04/2024 um 11:32 schrieb bad sector:
>>> hat (in the...) is NovaBBS?
>>
>> It's the new GG.
>
> My filter is
>
> if Injection-Info contains i2pn2.org
> then ignore subthread
>

Thanks.

--
Ottavio Caruso

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by: bad sector - Wed, 1 May 2024 12:48 UTC

On 4/30/24 07:37, Kyonshi wrote:
> On 4/30/2024 12:32 PM, bad sector wrote:
>> On 4/30/24 03:37, HenHanna wrote:
>>>
>>> For 2 weeks or so... i've been noticing that
>>>
>>> (in Sci.Lang, AUE (alt.usage.english), Rec.Puzzles, etc.)
>>>
>>> new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.
>>>
>>>
>>> --------- What (in the...) is going on ???
>>
>>
>> What (in the...) is NovaBBS?
>>
>> T-bird does have issues, more than one even, but articles that my
>> providing usenet server puts up do appear in T-bird on my computers.
>>
>
> It's a web interface for usenet

I see, I never use anything other than a usenet server for usenet

running on Rocksolid Light.
>
> NovaBBS is connected with I2PN2, HenHanna, how are you getting the posts
> into TB? Did you connect it with the nntp server for I2PN2?

nntp only, I use T-bird for usenet only (as well as pan)

> If that's the case you might have to ask the sysop of both systems
> (Retro Guy), it might be something wrong with his configuration.

Nothing wrong with my config, all usent articles that get to giganews
server show up in my T-bird.

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by: Kyonshi - Wed, 1 May 2024 13:17 UTC

On 5/1/2024 2:48 PM, bad sector wrote:
> On 4/30/24 07:37, Kyonshi wrote:
>> On 4/30/2024 12:32 PM, bad sector wrote:
>>> On 4/30/24 03:37, HenHanna wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For 2 weeks or so... i've been noticing that
>>>>
>>>> (in Sci.Lang, AUE (alt.usage.english), Rec.Puzzles, etc.)
>>>>
>>>> new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------- What (in the...) is going on ???
>>>
>>>
>>> What (in the...) is NovaBBS?
>>>
>>> T-bird does have issues, more than one even, but articles that my
>>> providing usenet server puts up do appear in T-bird on my computers.
>>>
>>
>> It's a web interface for usenet
>
> I see, I never use anything other than a usenet server for usenet
>
> running on Rocksolid Light.
>>
>> NovaBBS is connected with I2PN2, HenHanna, how are you getting the
>> posts into TB? Did you connect it with the nntp server for I2PN2?
>
> nntp only, I use T-bird for usenet only (as well as pan)
>
>
>> If that's the case you might have to ask the sysop of both systems
>> (Retro Guy), it might be something wrong with his configuration.
>
> Nothing wrong with my config, all usent articles that get to giganews
> server show up in my T-bird.
>
>

Yeah sorry, those questions were meant for the original poster

This login session: $13.76, but for you $11.88.

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new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	HenHanna
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	bad sector
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Kyonshi
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Retro Guy
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Retro Guy
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Sn!pe
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Retro Guy
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Kyonshi
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Retro Guy
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	bad sector
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Kyonshi
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Ottavio Caruso
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Jörg Lorenz
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Jörg Lorenz
Re: new posts that i can read on NovaBBS are not appearing in TB.	Ottavio Caruso